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Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.08 17:25:31 -
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Roy Henry wrote:they gave almost no positive input into discussion.
Which to me reads 'did not agree with OUR objectives'.
There is precedent for long term friendships between opposing faction corps and neutral entities, if they choose that path, that in itself is fine, but they cant expect general gal mil to honor that friendship.
In the past, the people who would not honor such arrangements were far too weak to do anything about it so they had to honor them by force. Things are a little different in this case..
Whatever lead to this, it does seem obvious that they gave blue intel to snuff which is perfectly good justification for a good ol' wardecaroo.
I just hope that when RDRAW realise that snuff have zero interest in their well being, that there is still place for them in gal mil. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.11 14:31:31 -
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Paxx Mandragoran wrote:Oreb, I totally get the idea of temp truces to shoot high-value targets of opportunity. I've been on grid with CalMil under a temporary agreement, shooting at pirate capitals. (Seems like a different kettle of fish than joining forces in an attempt to station-camp.) But at any rate, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the "GalMil leadership" trying to take some high road about sleeping with the enemy, when they hop into the sack with the enemy all the time. It's also funny that in this very thread we have GalMil leaders saying, "Do we seek to work with the squids to displace them from suj, no, at least I don't. " - and then when the shooting starts.... well... inconsistency, hypocrisy, whatever you wanna call it. /shrug
As for the stale diplomacy stuff... I'm guessing you're addressing someone else. I certainly never mentioned anything about that. I'm too new to FW to comment about years of historical back story. But I can recognize hypocrisy when I see it. And I can smell BS when it's stacked in front of me. So I thought I would mention it. As I said in my original post. If you want to shoot us in the face because you don't like us, then just man up and admit it. Quit trying to hide under some manufactured BS pretense.
I like RDRAW, i appreciate what they have done for the WZ even if others dont.
However, once you call in SNUFD to gank what was clearly a friendly cap, you have crossed a line. Complaining and calling hypocrisy when other people join you on the other side of that line is bad form.
Its very unlikely that tek will post a comment apologising for breaching trust, which leaves RDRAW with awox branding, under what can only be assumed as the complete direction of SNUFD. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.11 16:43:07 -
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Paxx Mandragoran wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote: However, once you call in SNUFD to gank what was clearly a friendly cap, you have crossed a line. Complaining and calling hypocrisy when other people join you on the other side of that line is bad form.
Dude, even the Beebop FC who got dropped on doesn't think RDRAW was responsible (See his comments buried in this reddit thread... https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4icr1p/spaceshipbebop_declare_war_on_rapid_withdrawal/ ) But I guess it fits the narrative better to ignore that and cry foul.
My understanding is that RDRAW tackled the neutral carrier, and no one was certain who lit the cyno |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.11 17:58:23 -
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So you had eyes and cyno in system, you are one jump away, rather than having to mid or take gates, you all are docked in a single station making forming easy, and you are happy that you managed to respond a few minutes slower than gal mil?
Im not even remotely dizzy from this spin. |

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Posted - 2016.05.11 18:37:56 -
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Thats odd, i pity most snuff pilots who choose to play eve in easy mode.
Funny how we play for our own reasons but never miss an opportunity to criticize others for theirs. |

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Posted - 2016.05.11 19:43:12 -
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eddie valvetino wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Thats odd, i pity most snuff pilots who choose to play eve in easy mode.
Funny how we play for our own reasons but never miss an opportunity to criticize others for theirs. you sure you're not mistake pity for envy?
Everyone likes to win, some like a challenge. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.12 14:13:45 -
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Dread Operative wrote: Nice attempt at character attack, but if you read Reddit, FHC, and any of the interviews I was vehemently outspoken about the incident. Regardless your attempted insult doesn't link with the point your trying to make. Please try again.
Its very reassuring that you were brave enough to say words in reaction to a pointless betrayal. Words > actions. Oh, and even though you were 'vehemently against it', you still managed to stay in an easy mode alliance, so brave.
Im glad that your words were enough to repair your alliances reputation lol. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.05.12 19:32:53 -
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Dread Operative wrote: 1/10 horrible troll and attempt of trigger words.
Yes, because I chose not to let the decision of my main FC, CEO and head of the alliance, ruin my easy-mode game for me and to push me away from something cancerous that I helped build. Shame on me.
K. |

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Posted - 2016.05.14 18:29:44 -
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War Results |

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Posted - 2016.05.15 03:56:43 -
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Dread Operative wrote: Alright back to dropping 30 supers and 10 titans on anything that looks like it might be a good fight otherwise "easy mods eve".
You are posting a lot for someone who doesnt care :) |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.06.05 03:17:48 -
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Dont think RDRAW could make it. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.06.14 01:52:46 -
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Just want to say, you ally with SNUFD for easy mode content for the most part. You fight SNUFD for higher end content. Just saying.
As for RDRAW being a feeder corp, i believe that was the exact language used in the internal RDRAW mail that announced the subjugation of RDRAW to SNUFD. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.06.25 16:09:40 -
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I am opposed to the war but i have no good justification to build a case for ending it. RDRAW is hard to work with at the best of time, but knowing that its likely that they will tip off their overlords when there is the prospect of juicy kills makes cooperation with them untenable. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.06.26 20:47:56 -
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Also, we did not engineer a blue with snufd. We just ended up under the same banner, an event that was engineered by a third party that has often helped us fight snufd. |

Crosi Wesdo
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Posted - 2016.06.29 19:50:06 -
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My wardec is filed vs. BEBOP. |
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